[Meatloaf] Stephan Wolfram essay on time & space

[Jim Hatfield]

I found the article very interesting.  It looks at reality in uncommon
ways. It has much in common with quantum physics and gnanya yogic
philosophy (to which I subscribe).

Anyone want to dig deeper into this with me?

I also found the concept of The Ruliad very fascinating!

Thank you, PT, for posting this!

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024, 3:30 PM Jeff Hayas <jeff.hayas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Official Joe's Spoon Reflector.
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> All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction.
> You have no chance to survive make your time. HA HA HA HA...
> For great justice.
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> Folks --
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> Most of us Sci-Fi fans have little trouble with time-travel stories in
> which the past is changed, and consequently "the present".
> In these scenarios, when the time-travelers return to "the present", they
> find that no one is aware of any change, even if it is radical.
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> I theorize that the inverse might also be true.  I find that most folks
> presume that the Past is "Real", that since it has a recorded historical
> record, if only in our memory, then it somehow still exists. Likewise we
> define the Future as "hasn't happened yet", and so it has no
> existence, save in "Works of Fiction".
> And yet we can imagine with certainty future consequences of current
> actions (like jumping off a cliff), even though they have not yet happened.
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> WHAT IF like Einstein we play a thought-experiment and discard the notion
> of linear-time, at least in the sense of Past-vs-Future being different,
> and instead define them both as projections from the Not-Now.  In this
> theory, the only reality is the Here-Now, and both past and future are
> cause-effect or effect-cause projections. Thus when we take action in the
> Here-Now, both Past and Future are altered.? Nearly all of us readily
> accept the idea that the Future can be changed by current actions, and by
> the common concept of linear time find it absurd that the Past can be
> altered.  But suppose it could happen that way. How would this change our
> concept of time, of history, of fate?
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> The physicists reading this would scream about cause-effect, relativistic
> light-cones, conservation of energy, entropy, etc.
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> But no one raises these same complaints when radical quantum-theory talks
> about "The Multiverse" (which I find absurd).
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> Ah, vot-der-hell, maybe several beers will clear my mind of these crazed
> ideas.
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> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 at 20:57, pt <mnemotronic at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Official Joe's Spoon Reflector.
>>
>> All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction.
>> You have no chance to survive make your time. HA HA HA HA...
>> For great justice.
>>
>> In essence, therefore, we experience time because of the interplay
>> between our computational boundedness as observers, and the computational
>> irreducibility of underlying processes in the universe. If we were not
>> computationally bounded, we could “perceive the whole of the future in one
>> gulp” and we wouldn’t need a notion of time at all. And if there wasn’t
>> underlying computational irreducibility there wouldn’t be the kind of
>> “progressive revealing of the future” that we associate with our experience
>> of time.
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>> https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2024/10/on-the-nature-of-time/
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